Wrapping up the second leg of the “Fate or Chaos” tour, chaos warrior GWAR have been busy pounding the pavement (among other things) and ripping through the country on what has been called the “tour between tours.” Bringing along minions Warbeast and Wilson, the intergalactic, Antarctic war mongers have been conquering North American lands near and far in attempts to continue their plans for world domination. The man behind the horns and lead throat thing, Dave Brockie (a.k.a Oderus Urungus) took a moment from scheming GWAR’s enslavement of The Handlebar during their Greenville, S.C stop to talk to tapeunit.com about a little of the old, the new, and the man inside the scumdog.
How would you sum up this second leg of the “Fate or Chaos” tour?
D.B: Its been great. It’s kind of a tour in between tour. It’s kind of a tour in between albums, so we didn’t really have an album to support so we had to come up with a brand new show out of nowhere but we came up with a really good one. The first part of it was great in the Fall and because people’s schedules were kind of crazy we didn’t get to tour as many places as we wanted to, but we have just done 16 shows in 16 days from the East Coast all the way out to LA. So, we’ve certainly been hit it pretty hard on this one and it went really well, played a lot of cool, placed. Very stoked, the new album’s all finished now and this was just a way to get us going into the Summer and after this we’re home for a few months and then the album comes out and then a brand new tour-it starts all over again.
What do you like to do when you’re home?
D.B: I have two pet cockatiels that I love to hang out with. My little bird brain buddies (laughs). I do a lot of art stuff outside of GWAR. I do a lot of writing, lot of painting, and a lot of drawing. I’ve been getting into some spoken word stuff, some storytelling stuff. I’m getting ready to do the absolutely craziest thing of my entire life. After this tour is over, I’m going to Russia for three weeks for my vacation. Most people would go to Cancun or something, but no me and my weird friends are going to Russia to tour military battlefields and military museums.
Is that mostly why you’re going?
D.B: Yeah, I’m a huge WWII history freak. I wrote a book awhile back called “War Ghoul” and the creature I created in that is a kind of a cult hero and I’m going be working on a sequel for it. So I figured I might as well go to Stalingrad and get some first hand experience with the characters I’m talking about. I’ve always been really fascinated by conflict. Definitely not into, I see it as the most colossally useless thing the human race has ye accomplished, but I certainly enjoy the study of it. People are a f**king train wreck, you can’t look away.
So, you guys recently dipped into the condiment industry with GWAR-B-Q…
D.B: Yes! There is no limit to the amount of ways that we will commercialize ourselves, trying to take a lesson from KISS. (laughs) You know started doing the GWAR-B-Q a few years back. You know we started doing the GWAR-B-Q a few years back, it was actually a party that went back many, many years and then just in the last four years we’ve been doing it every year and every year it’s gotten a little bit bigger. So, we actually explored into the realm of having our own GWAR-B-Q sauce and our own beer, Impaled Ale. A lot of bands have done the beer thing, as far as I know I’ve never seen another band do a barbecue sauce. It’s f**king good too! It’s kind of a sweet and hot kind of thing.
I know you guys are known as a more visual and slightly crazy band, but I love the Kansas cover video.
D.B: Oh yeah, a lot of people reacted very strongly to that. It’s going to be on the new album. I was horrified, like “Oh no! There’s no way!” It’s a great song (“Carry On My Wayward”). I grew up with that song. And the guys did an absolutely amazing job on it and I just kind of put my own stamp on the lyrics, so yeah, it came out really good The album’s being mixed right now up in Canada by Glenn Robinson who mixed America Must Be Destroyed and War Party for us. So, people will be able to listen to that from the privacy of their own homes, and of course when we play it in the set people just freak out.
Through the evolution of GWAR, given the lore, what would you say has been your greatest domination?
D.B: We’ve had a lot of amazing stories and characters over the years, but my favorite will always be the story of Gor Gor. You know how a GWAR woman gave birth to the Gor Gor egg and we injected it with liquid crack and it turned him into a horrible creature and he grew up really fast. We built this giant Gor Gor costume, and we’ve done a lot of spectacular things on stage, but that was probably the most spectacular thing we ever did. When that 12-foot dinosaur came out on stage every night, I was scared. I had to fight the f**king thing, and I was terrified of it. I could not even see, my friend Scott was my best friend from high school, and he’s the guy inside this giant costume. You couldn’t even see his beady little eyes looking out of the mouth. It really looks like a giant monster, and here I am throwing myself into its mouth every night.
You say all that and of course, I think of “Empire Records”…
D.B: I love that movie. It’s funny. When we did the movie, we were filming it, we shot it somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina, and we were doing a scene and the line that Oderus had to say was “Hey Mark, come on up and join the band!” I was like “Oderus would never say that!” I was making a big stink about it on set. I was like “I would never do that line! Write me a better line!” I was being a real jerk about it and the director was like “Hey you know Dave, why don’t you say whatever you want.” I was like “Yeah, I beat the system!” Then in years later when I saw the movie, I saw they had just taken my voice out of it entirely, and put another voice on saying the line they wanted me to say. So, you cant fight city hall.
Do we have an E.T.A on the new album?
D.B: Yeah, we’re looking at September 1. Everything’s done; it’s just getting mixed now. We’re putting the final touches on the cover art, and yeah, I think September 1 it’s going to b out.
Any final words for the fans?
D.B: Well, I just want to thank everybody for supporting us through this difficult time. I think it would have killed a lesser band, but GWAR through the support of our amazing fans has really hung in there. I keep saying that GWAR is a band whose time as yet to come. We’ve been around forever, but the band is always getting a little bit bigger, its not like a traditional band where you come out of the gate, do really well for a while, and then drop off the radar. GWAR has been this slow, steady rise to power and it’s because our fans are so awesome. We’re obligated to give them the entertainment they crave. Once you’ve seen GWAR, you know, nothing else will do. I think if we ever stopped doing it they (the fans) would probably show up at our houses and demand we continue. I’ve always said GWAR is the band that could last a thousand years. I don’t know how much longer we’ll be doing this, but I was completely serious when I said that we would have other people replace us at some point and the band would just continue on and on. Son of Oderus? I don’t know if anybody will keep up with Oderus, but he will probably have a kid at some point that will kill and eat him and take his job. (laughs)
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